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reading the Harry Potter book. It took far too long to read in English.



I think I understand why sometimes people want to hit things now. I am SO MAD that Sirius died, and it is NOT FAIR how he died!

Date: 2003-06-27 09:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-foliate.livejournal.com
*hugs*

Would you be super depressed if I told you that not all deaths are from the movies? Sometimes people just die needlessly, without all the hooplah.

If you need it, I got my Momma to send over some Vanilla tea and I'm sure there could be a spare mug for you.

I know...

Date: 2003-06-27 12:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-tarot.livejournal.com
I understand it, I was just not expecting a needless death in a book, so I am a little frustrated.

Poor Sirius didn't really get a chance to enjoy being out of prison. It makes sense, I just feel very sad about it.

Vanilla tea would be really good right now. Thank you.

Re: I know...

Date: 2003-06-27 12:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-foliate.livejournal.com
Then you're a very bright gal.

Come on down. The kettle's on.

Date: 2003-06-27 11:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-crowdofone.livejournal.com
He got a bad deal through the whole book. Stuck in that awful house not being able to do anything, and then just bam!

I hope Neville kicks that Bellatrix lady's butt six ways from Sunday.

Date: 2003-06-27 09:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-synch.livejournal.com
I was kind of upset when he died, but I guess it was okay from a narrative viewpoint. I'm glad we got to see more of Harry's friend Hermione though. She's really smart and I like her a lot.

Date: 2003-06-27 11:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-crowdofone.livejournal.com
Hermione's great. I thought Harry was being kind of unfair to her last book, so it was cool to see her getting more stuff to do this time.

Kinda clueless about the house-elves, though. She ought to listen to Ron more about that.

Date: 2003-06-28 07:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-dazzler.livejournal.com
The scene in the Forbidden Forest was rather... ill-thought out as to the possible repercussions as well though, wouldn't you say?

I thought that she was shown to be far less "perfect" in this book than the others... which was nice to see, even if it gave me the shivers.

*wry grin*

Date: 2003-06-28 08:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-crowdofone.livejournal.com
Yeah, I think Hermione's got a pretty big blind spot about the way nonhumans in general think, on account of not growing up knowing they exist.

And everybody was a lot less perfect this time around.

Date: 2003-06-28 03:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-dazzler.livejournal.com
Thematic of the book could easily be centered around human frailties, when you think about it. And how peoples' strengths can also be their weaknesses.

In Hermione's case - her blind spot is more that she thinks they should think a certain way... she's had ample time to research House Elves for one. She just refuses to admit that they might be content in a situation she can't conceive of as acceptable.

Date: 2003-06-28 06:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-synch.livejournal.com
I can kind of understand what she's thinking about though. She's got a good idea, but she's coming up with strange ways to make it work. Maybe she should work on the goblins or the centaurs instead.

To be honest, if I was a wizard I would go hide in the not-magical world. I'm not brave like all those people are.

Re:

Date: 2003-06-28 06:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-dazzler.livejournal.com
Haven't played Devil's Advocate in a while, me. Here goes. ;)

Maybe she should work on the goblins or the centaurs instead.

Consider how the centaurs reacted to them being in the Forbidden Forest with Umbridge, however. I'd say what JKR was getting to with this is that you can have all the good intentions you want - they won't necessarily be what another needs or even wants for that matter. The goblins do certainly seem to know what they want and acted upon it if you take the Goblin Wars into consideration, and the fact that they essentially have control over Wizarding economy...

Hermione could be said to be more intent to "change things" because it makes it easier for her to cope, rather than for her to adapt to someone else's ideals and accept them.

I think the scene with the centaurs was a learning lesson for her... part of growing up and learning you can't always have things the way you want them.

To be honest, if I was a wizard I would go hide in the not-magical world. I'm not brave like all those people are.

I'm sincerely hoping the author will show how the Wizarding World tends to underestimate Muggles in one of the last two books. Not holding my breath - but I am hoping...

Date: 2003-06-28 09:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-crowdofone.livejournal.com
I'm sincerely hoping the author will show how the Wizarding World tends to underestimate Muggles in one of the last two books.

See, I was actually really happy to see Harry actually identify Aunt Petunia as his mom's sister, and see her know stuff about Voldemort and stuff. Because we really haven't seen Muggles that don't suck in the books--I mean, sure, Hermione's parents, but all we know about them is they're dentists and Mr. Weasley likes them. I don't think Harry's ever talked to them.

She is putting in more ambiguity in people as Harry grows up, so I guess there's still hope she'll turn the Dursleys into actual human beings rather than cartoons. I hope she does.

Date: 2003-06-29 04:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-dazzler.livejournal.com
*nods*

Shades of grey. Nothing is black and white, and that's what a lot of the book was about. That and things not always being as they originally appeared, and people having to re-evaluate things...

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